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The History of Music Vids/Fanthropology

Is there anything on the net on the history of music vids? (Yes, smile, I know this is a stupid question... )

I’ve been trying to figure out the first time I saw a music vid, so I’ve been doing a bit of ‘fanthropology’.

I saw some “Star Trek” vids before I ever saw vids for any other fandom. I’ve been working “backwards” to determine exactly when I saw those vids.

In 1984, I remember seeing some “Dark Shadows” music vids at “The Dallas Dark Shadows Convention”. I recently emailed the two women who made those vids (I’ll call them “K” and “M’), and I was told they made their first two vids in 1983. They’d been inspired to do this after hearing about a video that had been made running music to an unedited sequence from a “Starsky & Hutch” episode. She thought the “Starsky & Hutch” vid had been made in 1981 or 1982.

“K” told me, re the “Starsky & Hutch” vid, “To the best of my knowledge they did not edit scenes, but just had a music background and let it run. . . . .(some friends) were talking about that video and I started to get the idea of editing scenes to music. I don't know if someone else had already done it (editing scenes, versus playing music to go along with unedited scenes) or not.”

Before I ever saw K & M’s DS vids, a woman named Carol showed me a DS vid she was working on. I believe this was early in 1983. Carol had come up with the concept of making vids independently from anyone else. By this time, I had already seen some “Star Trek” vids, and when I told her about them she was startled to find out someone else had already come up with this concept. (I think a number of people came up with the idea fairly simultaneously.)

I saw these “Star Trek” vids at least a year or two prior to seeing Carol’s vid. That would date the Trek vids to 1981 – 1982. I don’t remember who made them, but I do remember seeing them at a house party on the east coast, probably in the Baltimore area.

I would *love* to find out if anyone knows who made these early “Star Trek” vids, and which songs they used.

Anyone out there have any information?

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Kandy Fong showed the first 'vids at a early Star trek convention in the 70s. She used slideshows and cassette tape. We celebrated the 30th anniversary at VVC last year if that helps date it.

also Kandy might have more info on those Trek vids you're looking for.
Replying to an old post here - I've been out of town so much this past month.

I interviewed Kandy at Escapade, as part of the K/S Legacy project, and even she didn't know what I was talking about. (I remember seeing her slideshows very early on; I remember thinking how very cool this was!) I do have a couple of other possible sources. I still believe I saw this vid at a K/S house party/minicon called Kiscon in Baltimore 1981 or 1982. It was a gen Trek video. I recently interviewed a woman who also attended this party; she remembered seeing a vid there, but she couldn't remember any more details than I did. I have email addresses for a couple of the other attendees, and I'm going to follow up on those, as well.

I don't know why I'm being so obsessive about this (smile) except I do love fannish history, and vids are an important part of that.
The biggest collection of older (but no idea how old) vids I saw at KiScon and I think Jenna should be able to help you or point you to someone who can help.

I remember that one vidder used lots of country songs and such...hm, might even have been MvD vids, which you probably saw by now. Not sure when exactly she started, but she must have been one of the early vidders too.
Replying to an old post here - I've been out of town so much this past month.

Jenna didn't have any information on this, because the vid in question was gen, not slash. I sure wish I could remember more details! I'm trying to think if I ever wrote MVD about this - I think not, so I'll write her again.
Not sure if there's anything here about vids in particular, but I bet you'll find it interesting anyway: http://www.fanhistory.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
OTOH, you've probably already seen it. Hell, you're probably quoted in it.
Anyway, in case you haven't seen it.

Got my copy of M/I this week, BTW. Thank you kindly.
~ g.
Replying to an old post here - I've been out of town so much this past month.

Thanks for the link! I only had the chance to briefly browse the site; I will definitely need to go back and read it more thoroughly.
There have been panels each year at VividCon about the history of vidding... I collect links to con reports and writeups on LJ in my memories categories; look for "vividcon yyyy" and feel free to poke around. When I'm feeling better I'll see if I can put together a shorter list of clean data for you.

tzikeh knows a whole lot, and yes, Kandy Fong is probably the person you want to talk to, but I have some tapes from her (and a handful of others" that include some of the earliest vids. I'll see if those tapes contents lists are online anywhere next weekend when I've got a bit of time.
>>>There have been panels each year at VividCon about the history of vidding... I collect links to con reports and writeups on LJ in my memories categories; look for "vividcon yyyy" and feel free to poke around.

Thanks, I'll go check that out. Not tonight, as I'm about to sign off, but this weekend.

>>>tzikeh knows a whole lot, and yes, Kandy Fong is probably the person you want to talk to

I interviewed Kandy at Escapade, as part of the K/S Legacy project, and even she didn't know what I was talking about. I do have a couple of other possible sources. I still believe I saw this vid at a K/S house party/minicon called Kiscon in Baltimore 1981 or 1982. It was a gen Trek video. I recently interviewed a woman who also attended this party; she remembered seeing a vid there, but she couldn't remember any more details than I did. I have email addresses for a couple of the other attendees, and I'm going to follow up on those, as well.

I don't know why I'm being so obsessive about this (smile) except I do love fannish history, and vids are an important part of that.