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I’m off LJ for months, and now I can’t shut up...

Wow, what a bunch of kerfuffles! I haven’t been on LJ much this spring, due to my job, but I managed to jump right back in right in the middle of major controversies.

I won’t address Fanlib here, except to say, stupid idea! So on to the most recent controversy.

I sure hope this proposed mass fannish migration to venues other than LJ turns out to be unnecessary. As many have pointed out, lots of people won’t follow, and fandom will become further fractured as a result.

I’m active in the zine community and I participate in some very active yahoo lists. With my current participation in LJ, I’m at my time limit. I enjoy LJ, but if people start going elsewhere, I’m not sure I can make another leap. A few years ago, several friends joined LJ. Several others joined BlogSpot. I had to make a choice which to go with, since I didn’t have the time to do both. So I went with LJ. As a consequence, I’m having a harder time keeping up with the friends who went to BlogSpot.

Now people are proposing migrating to other venues – several other venues – and my poor brain is going *enough*!

Question – I believe that every person on my flist are fannish – how many of you, given the complex nature of the controversy itself, would consider moving to another venue?

Lots of my fannish friends never made the leap to LJ in the first place. I’d say at least half of the friends I see at MediaWest aren’t on LJ. Though a couple of them, this past MediaWest, showed some interest in joining up… Ironically, as it turns out, just as many fans are talking about heading to other venues.

If any of the many proposals to create fan-only space on the net comes about, I’ll definitely check it out. (I’m curious as to how far the proposal that fans buy stock in LJ, should it become a publicly traded company, will play out. It sounds less than practical to me, but who knows? We sure are quite a presence here, and organized fans *can* accomplish quite a lot.)

By scanning about a zillion posts in Metafandom, I did find out bits and pieces of fannish history I hadn’t known before. The leap to LJ a few years ago took me completely by surprise. It makes a lot more sense now that I know a lot of this was motivated by fanfiction.net banning NC-17 stories, and, in a non-related movie, Yahoo Groups at approximately the same time TOSing several fannish adult lists.

Fandom’s always a moving current, isn’t it?

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Not only fandom; the same things happened e.g. with bdsm and fetish groups after yahoo did several purges at the end of the 90s. But at that time, there wasn't a major venue where they could go to. Some people who had net hosting services set up mailing lists, but then those depend on that person...and sometimes people leave their interest groups. Then some bigger portal opens, everything's going there...then it goes downhill again. Been there, seen it ;)

I think it's like in rl, some things are stable, some are not so, and you will have to move a LITTLE around to keep in contact, but not follow each and every trend. I still chat on irc (since 1996) and on mailing lists (1995). The only thing I never really did is anything with normal mail *G* :) That's why I would never be able to connect to the old zine scene outside of cons (even if it had really my pairings).
>>>Not only fandom; the same things happened e.g. with bdsm and fetish groups after yahoo did several purges at the end of the 90s.

I'm not surprised by this at all. Yahoo seemed to go through several puritanical phases, motivated, no doubt, by complaints from advertisers. Money talks.

>>>>But at that time, there wasn't a major venue where they could go to. Some people who had net hosting services set up mailing lists, but then those depend on that person...and sometimes people leave their interest groups. Then some bigger portal opens, everything's going there...then it goes downhill again. Been there, seen it ;)

It's quite the tidal flow, isn't it? I originally joined a couple of the yahoo lists I'm still on when they were still being hosted by egroups. And there was a big hoohah when yahoo took over egroups and changed several TOS provisions. I don't remember what now. But every time there's a change people tend to splinter apart and then come back together in entirely new ways.

>>>I think it's like in rl, some things are stable, some are not so, and you will have to move a LITTLE around to keep in contact, but not follow each and every trend.

Agreed. I tend to wait these days to see if the little trends are going to become big ones before I make any moves.

>>>I still chat on irc (since 1996)

You know, I never did IRC, though I used to participate in a lot of fan setup AOL private chat rooms.

>>>and on mailing lists (1995).

That's when I started on mailing lists, too. The first one I joined was called Virgule and was an all-slash discussion list for all fandoms. It was listserv.

>>>The only thing I never really did is anything with normal mail *G* :) That's why I would never be able to connect to the old zine scene outside of cons (even if it had really my pairings).

We're all on email now anyway, with one or two exceptions...